I surely am.  All those guitars that were made during the 80’s.  My Standard Pro is fairly low numbered – 0202.  But I was told made in 91, and the EMG pickup designations bear that out.

What were the serials of all the guitars made in the 80’s?  Anyone know what the serials of those would be?


ADDED:  I/we get a lot of requests for serial number information suck as “I own serial # xxxx, can you tell me when it was made?” and I’m sorry to say the answer is no.  Serial numbers were all over the map, and I totally lack the knowlege to guess at them.

51 Thoughts on “Curious about Serial Numbers?”

  • Hello from Greece.
    When I was studying music in Los Angeles MI back on 1996 , I bought used my Valley Art guitar with serial VA 0036 and the name of Jim Boyle on the body.
    Only Jim Boyle I found on the internet is the famous Alanis Morissette’s producer.
    If you could please provide any information about my guitar I would be really grateful.
    Thank you in advance.

    • My best guess is it is a Pre-Samick – but compare numbers in the registry near it to get more information

  • Hi! I am about to buy a Custom Pro Tele with serial number VA 03450 but the selley is not able to tell which is the production year of the guitar. Is it possible to know from the serial number from what year is the instrument? Thanks!

  • Hello guys,

    Could you tell me about my VA ? I have a california pro usa with interlock system and EMG pu HSS. The serial number is VA 03038..

    So can you explain to me about the guitar ? Year made or something about information my VA.

    Many thanks

  • Hi,

    I have a custom pro, absolutely gorgeous…luv it!!
    I didn’t want to remove the neck to check the neck for info, I was wondering if anyone could help with dating it. The serial number is VA03311 it has Mike McGuire signature on the headstock. Thanking you in advance for your help, best regards Jon

  • Good afternoon .. I would like to know if the valley art red va03003 california pro is legitimate and if it is made in the USA. I want to buy it Thank you very much.Information for this guitar

  • Hi, bravo for your work about this great Mark and excellent guitars.
    I have a VV Standard pro, Larry Carlton signature, tele shape body, but black with white sparkle pickguard. The serial number on the headstock is VA 02146.
    Could you tell me about the age of this guitar, and if it is a pre Samick model. I can send you photos….
    Thank you

    • My two are VA012XX and VA013XX, both are numbered and signed. I understand they made a couple hundred more with decal signatures, right away in 91 & 92, but that’s the extent of my knowledge about them.

  • Hey!

    Curious about a Samick Valley Arts Custom Pro Shop Bass Guitar. The S/N on the back says 3100564. Looking for the year, model #, or any information you can share.

    Tim G

  • Hi guys
    Can you please tell me what year a VA 02092 Custom pro is ? The shop selling it says its 2003 ?
    Thanks in advance from Dublin Ireland. 👍

    • Hi John, if they are dating it as 2003, is is not a Pre-Samick and that’s the only thing I know a little about. Maybe ask on the facebook page?

  • Good day from Germany,
    I have a question about my Valley Arts Custom Pro Stratocaster. I think it’s a Samick model after the sale too. The serial number is not very far from DAN’s guitar. Nevertheless, a confirmation would be nice.
    My serial number is: A03147

    Please find attached a link to my website where you can see a photo of my guitar:
    [Link deleted]

    Maybe you also have information about my M-Series, # 6054

    Matthias / Germany / lower Saxony / Hannover

  • Hi.
    I got a Custom Pro with serial, VA 02255, and when I compared the number with a couple other serial Numbers in your registrer section it says it is a 90’s guitar, the numbers I compared with were VA 02250 and VA 02275, so my number are in between, but on the heel of my guitar neck it says it is a 2003, which I were told when I bought the guitar, but I find it a little bit confusing anyway, so I hope for an answer of this.

    Many thanks./ Roger

    • My limited knowledge comes from Martin – but if it says 2003 – it has to be a Samick made guitar. I have one and it’s a great guitaar, just lacks that collectibility of the Pre-Samick ones

  • Best I can tell you is to look in the registry for numbers around that – hope that helps!

  • I just acquired 3 VA guitars from a collector who unfortunately passed away a few months ago. I think they’re all pre-Samick and I sent the info (with photos) to Martin Miranda hoping to get confirmation last week, but have not heard back anything yet. I’m possibly going to sell them, but want to know specifics first. The guitars are:
    -Valley Arts Custom – Steve Lukather model 1991 Fireburst (Serial #VA 01954)
    -Valley Arts Custom Robot (Serial #M 001)
    -Valley Arts Custom Pro (Serial #VA 01835)

    Any other suggestions regarding getting info since I assume there could be a lot of interest in these at some point.

    • Tom – the best I can tell you is to look in the registry for ones near that serial number – Hope that helps!

    • Hello Tom,
      do you still have the VA guitars you mentioned in your post? If so, please get back to me at m.frieauff@mac.com – I am always on the hunt for nice VA guitars and might be interested in purchasing them from you.

  • IReally need your help!!!
    Ihave a SIGNED Brent Mason Signature # va 02321. I have someone questioning the fact it has no string tree at the e and b string, and says the signature is much larger than usual. Ive looked at many of his signatures and it looks identical. Can you please help me and clarify. I paid $2500.00 for this and hope its legitimate. Thanks for your help!!!

  • Year of manufacture is written w pencil at the heel of the neck. Yes, you will have to detach the neck to see it. The serial numbers are quite confusing, (maybe there is a way to descifer them unknown to me) for instance one of my Custom Pro’s has #VA00825 and was made 1990, another one made in 1988 has got a higher serial no.

  • Hello, I am Julien fromFrance. bravo for your site !!!

    I am looking for a valley art custom pro sunburst ou lukather

    Do you know where I can buy one?


  • Good day: could you tell me in what year and any reference data about this number of my guitar Valley Arts: VA 03590 I live in Argentina. Many thanks

  • Hello to Valley Arts Guitar users and builders,
    I used a VA Stratocaster , build in the early 80s. It has a fantastic sound until today!
    The serial number is 5669. No number or letters on the headstock! Only on the plate. EMG Pickups, golden hardware.
    Could someone tell me if it is a US or a Japanese model? and when it was bulid?

    Thank you

  • Hello Valley Arts Enthusiast,
    I can shed some light on the very early Valley Arts Guitar serial numbers, I ordered mine in October of 1983 and received it in January of 1984. The serial number on my Valley Arts is VA 0107. Mike McGuire was the builder. Mike sent me a picture of an early Valley Arts Guitar he was building for Steve Lukather right around the same time as mine was being built. The serial number on Steve’s guitar was VA 0102. As I was looking at the picture Steves guitar, and was comparing it to mine, I noticed a small detail which can help you in establishing the authenticity of the guitars that Mike built:
    1. The serial number on the “back of the head stock” is engraved directly into the wood. No plates or stickers. Just carved directly into the wood. It is carved as follows: VA 0107 No hyphens
    2. The serial number as engraved on the “metal plate” where the neck attaches to the body is simply #0107. The metal plate excludes the letters “VA.” The # sign then the number- #0107. No letters.
    This information should clear up any questions about the Valley Arts serial numbers and establish the dates of some of the early guitars. I don’t have any information on the guitars that might exist below VA 0102.
    Other characteristics of Mike’s guitars that may help establish authenticity are as follows:
    The guitar itself is one piece quilted maple, not laminated, just one solid piece of quilted maple.
    The neck is made of a single piece of birds eye maple.
    The fretboard is ebony.
    The fret wire is Dunlop 6100 Jumbo Wire, which was what Mike recommended at the time.
    Electronic set ups were another unique characteristic of of Mikes guitars. Prior to the period of Mikes use of EMG pickups, he pioneered some wiring setups and pickup combinations (Mostly Seymour Duncans) from which he derived some of his classic sounds from that time period. These included Larry Carltons hit Sleepwalk, and many other of the famous Southern California Jazz/Rock sounds of the late 70’s to the mid 80’s. The wiring techniques that Mike created during those early days included pickup coil splitting and pickups combinations that he took with him when he became head of the Gibson custom shop.

    I would use these specs and characteristics to help verify that you have an authentic Mike McGuire built Valley Arts Guitar. The pictures of some of his other builds given to me by Mike at the time, along with comparison to my Valley Arts

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